good evening welcome to dojo i assume you guys can
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yep sound good got some vitriol this morning uh gnome side note i did not send the
links out today i just forgot i i made the zoom invitation but i didn’t
post it on patreon and i think it’s because of the show but anyway
something else to babysit me on just giving you something fun to do
so thank you for that um welcome to dojo everyone it’s good to have you guys here
um instead of me actually begging for hands i wanted to go over something that some of you might find helpful
some of you might find it weird we do not have to discuss this i just simply want to tell you
um today i had a question that touched on the idea of
shamanism and my friend trey wrote saying james sometimes
when i’m talking with people it feels like i know them better than they know themselves
and that i’m having a conversation with someone who doesn’t know
what i know about them and i’d like to know with a show of hands has anyone can
anyone relate to that feeling if so
feel free to raise your hand i just want to know if i’m not the only one okay
now um since there’s more than one great you don’t have to raise your hand you could lower your hand i just want to make sure
i wasn’t going down the wrong avenue and at any point in time if anyone has topics raise your hand
but before i really want to touch on this there is a fine line between
schizophrenia and shamanism and that a schizophrenic
many times is a shaman that lacks confidence schizophrenic is a shaman that lacks
confidence and the confidence is how real is the world that you are rendering
compared to someone else’s version of reality and you may know this when you might
encounter someone that you think is lying and this person could be lying not even for nefarious reasons someone could be
lying because they like you someone could be lying because they want to be on your good side
and the first thing that stops you from seeing lies as a shaman is the insistence that you don’t do it
and so the shaman becomes the shaman the moment he can admit that he lies to or she lies to
and it’s not even the omission that does it what happens is that you relax when lying is in the room
and you relax because you don’t have this puritanical witch-hunting vibe about how we must to kill all the liars
or we someone should pass a law to stop lying that instead the shaman
sees that in himself accepts it and it becomes a part of his medicine
that now when he’s in the room with someone else he can tell when they are using the medicine too
so the lying doesn’t become something that you were ashamed of as the shaman the lying becomes a medicine that’s in
your bag you alchemize the power by removing the
sheen of guilt around it unwrapping it and seeing whether or not it’s
constructive for you and many people have not done that
many people are walking around the world insisting that they do not lie
but others do and you will be in the room with these people and they will be having a
full-blown conversation with you and you swear that they are fully committed and there and present
and then you notice that they’re lying you may notice they’re lying about themselves
and it’s not nefarious it’s simply what you feel in the room
and the reason why it’s not for nefarious is because if you felt it was nefarious your shamanistic power would
be limited and sublimated into this paranoia which goes back into this topic of
schizophrenia do you have the confidence to find things in yourself
and the confidence to see them in others too it’s a part of your medicine
most of the shaman will dismiss their own powers because they can never have someone
validate how true their vision is
in fact the person will tell you as you’re as you’re conveying to them what you see
they will say that’s not true and they will say it with such fervor and such anger and such demands that you
will feel bad for even having the shamanistic vision that you that you saw and you will quickly dismiss it and you
will dismiss it because it was too expensive or too painful or it lacked you lacked confidence to
hold it in their view and the reason why it was hard to hold
probably could have something to do with their willingness to accept that truth
inside their room that they just simply find it too difficult to be in the
presence of this so they will insist it’s not there and you a shaman will be
surrounded by ten other people and nine of them are [ __ ] swearing to god
that what you see is not true and sometimes
it will be true it will in the times when it’s true you will be
penetrated with this giant wave of consensus the god of census
ordering you to obey ordering you to abandon your shaman
powers and get on our side too and here’s what makes it really [ __ ] up
sometimes they’re right too
and it [ __ ] sucks because sometimes they’re right when you really wanted them to be wrong
and when you find those events if your posture is true if you accept the fact about lying as
medicine you will notice oh i was applying medicine by lying to myself
about what was in the room and so you gain that power
of medicine by accepting that it’s in youtube and that you could be wrong about what
everyone else is seeing and at no point in time will anyone ever ever
ever [ __ ] come up to you and say hey man i just need you to know that you were right
and if that ever happens sometimes when they do that that person is lying to you
and you don’t even know that you won’t know that they were telling you they were right because secretly they were trying
to manipulate you into believing that you were shaman because of this and this and this and this that even that is a
possibility and every single time when you’re in the canoe you turn around and mystery is
there and that’s the shaman’s path that’s why you’re in the boat alone
because you need the seat for her you need the seat for that mystery it’s
never ever ever going to change not in this reality
that it’s all based on confidence it’s all based on the confidence in your accuracy
as an archer and these are invisible arrows it’s [ __ ] hard
and that’s why most will not reach the level of shaman and some
will see it so clearly but still lack the confidence and they will go loco
they will slip into bipolar disorder they will slip into ptsd
because they’re surrounded by a world that’s inverted and no one will admit it
no one will agree with them that they see it too and it’s good
because it’s the only time that you as a shaman will be able to grow as an individual that if we had shaman senses
it would make it harder for us to grow more jedis to grow more people
that gain the confidence to see these things too and it doesn’t matter how many years
you’ve been doing it you will be just as wrong on day 3000 as you could have been on day one
you just don’t know it’s always in the room and that always in the room is the
sacrifice that you make as a shaman by saying but i feel this
and i know it’s expensive and i know i could be wrong and i know i could lose my ass and i know i could be embarrassed
and i know i could find how i’ve lied to myself and all these people would witness it too and on top of all that
i still think it’s true and that’s one of the most powerful gifts a magi can bring
that he’s bringing it through all that doubt and you’re seeing that because of how associated he is in his body
as he’s saying i know you’re saying that’s not the case
but i can’t help it my sonar is telling me this is true
these are hard skills and i think all of us are here to become
this shaman i don’t think all of us have to be like the one-eyed guy that’s just like
oh you will go it doesn’t have to be that intense but some of us are meant for that too
and that no role is even better or worse it’s just part of our
telepathy which i’d rather call telepathy this living breathing sonar that we’ve had
this whole time and just a few of us are finally able to raise our hand and admit
that it’s in the room um [Music] that’s all i got
anybody have any topics tonight one quick thing on the shaman thing uh
with the healer aspect of it it reminds me that there’s an extra nuance that
makes it even more difficult to determine in a sense if the perception was accurate or not because
there’s the shaman reacting and saying something that is quote unquote true their observation and then there’s the shaman reacting and saying something
that’s untrue that’s the actual medicine so what the shaman said is accurate
in the sense that the medicine is the accurate but the statement itself may not be kind of what you in a sense so there’s
like it’s not just that they can respond and perceive something true uh they could also respond in a way
that’s just delivering medicine uh and that is truth but it’s not the truth that we think it is it’s not the obvious
thing that they said anyway that’s that’s esoterically deep as [ __ ] man and you’re right
yeah you’re absolutely right and i think that goes into the sacred clown to be honest
there’s a little bit of the sacred clown clown in what you just said a lot of it
and that i would even want to say okay but let’s hold that off for now because the shaman training is so hard in and of
itself that we don’t want to talk about how to shoot arrows backwards but this is exactly what what’s required in the
medicine anyone else
when you read the uh comment from uh i don’t remember his name but uh it kind
of reminded me of and i don’t like to use clinical terms but like megalomania that i’ve had like
since i was a kid or since being a kid you know you might be superstitious that everyone is a robot around you or that everybody
pauses when you walk away i thought that the i thought that it sounded almost like he uh
mostly since that everyone had less of a capacity for for living in the experience that he did [Music]
which uh that’s one of the reasons i try to pursue empathy is to try to
overcome buildings like that to be more to be more more relatable i guess
i’m not disagreeing with anything you said i just uh i there’s no it would be impossible to disagree with what i said because i i’m
not actually trying to sell anything here as much as i’m i think that part of the whole challenge is to
even deal with the fear of megalomania
as we embrace our own power too that even the apprehension from that is
part of the initiation process that requires this kind of burning and
and uh it’s part of why it’s such a rarity there’s not a lot of
a lot of people practicing this work at least outwardly most of it’s uh subterranean anyway all
of us do this all of us are are sensing and reading things
but it really does take a certain amount of electricity to be able to say that out loud in the face of the
disagreement itself and it represents a deeper kind of compassion if it’s authentic of course
and a deeper kind of communication that is going to be really uncomfortable for most people which is why they react so
harshly to it which is kind of why the world looks the way it looks right now
so there’s no no disagreeing i i mean you can’t i’m not trying to say you can’t i’m just saying i i don’t it’s
not even that i even agree with this i still struggle with this all the time in fact i’ll have people tell me how [ __ ] up i
am because i’m acting like i’m seeing things about them that aren’t there and even that is really healthy vitriol and
i realize that could come at any point and that that’s exactly what i could be doing that’s what makes it so expensive
to practice medicine is that at any point in time that could be in the room
that that could be exactly what’s happening and the shaman has to be able to accept that or else he’s just he’s
just fronting you know yes that that is i think what i heard you bringing me back to what i think i was
trying to get to with the megalomaniac term uh was that i find that no matter how
fully realized a person is in their person that they often can see me better than i can see myself in the same way that the universe is always able to be
more honest about me than i can be myself or at least it seems like i’m trying to keep up like i don’t ever achieve authenticity
as much as it’s pursued daily and i get clues from the universe
about uh what i lack or or all the unfinished aspects of myself
and uh so yes it is it is a constant struggle to
to uh make sure and always have room to be able to hear what others are saying as well
yeah you can also use your embarrassment as a sort of radar to know where your your black footprints are where your
shadow is there’s certain parts of your car that are blind spots in your rear view
mirror and the same thing is true with your body and in those blind spots are going to be your embarrassment
over uh the perceived inaccuracies of where you are what i mean by that is
if you can stock where your denial comes on really strong or where you get defensive what you’re
really doing is you’re detecting your blind spots and that’s always good
and so if you embrace those things as saying yes lying is my medicine which means covering something up and hiding
it from myself is medicine too that’s when you start to have that kind of relationship with your own uh with
your own vehicle and you recognize where those blind spots are and you know they’re there
right you can’t assume that they’re gone they’re not gonna be gone they’re just gonna
change they’re just going to change base sure they can maybe get better they may get worse
but really what they’re going to do is just move they’re going to move from where where you last caught them because they’re no longer effective to be there
why because most of this is venting a lot of this is venting too
open floor anyone
alright i’ll jump in here just in um on the subject of dealing with other people’s lives and
so working with the kids that i work with kids who have autism um
there’s a couple of them and this is not all that rare i’ve seen it in other in
other kids with autism that are not in my class but the ones that i’m talking about the ones that i’ve gotten to know
pretty well and they’ll do something right in front of you and then they’ll totally deny it
and as a shaman or as a helper person
there’s nothing that you can say to get them to i don’t know if it’s admitting but i
think that their belief is so strong that they didn’t really do it that’s what i’m starting to think and
it’s it’s interesting to me um working with this population too over the years i’ve concluded that they’re their minds
can be stuck at various ages and judging from
my granddaughters and their friends growing up um right now the little one
age five is doing that all the time not all the time obviously but a lot of the time
just completely denying in your face everything to the point where i really believe that she believes that she didn’t do it
and then it’s a it’s a challenge dealing with that situation um
never quite sure you know how to work with that one
yeah i think the shaman has to meet you inside the lie bubble
like because meeting them anywhere else is going to be too hard right
so the shaman’s able to go into that bubble and then either disperse it or make it
too expensive so that the person ends up having to render something new and that the
purpose of the shaman is not to always destroy lie bubbles that it’s just going to be another lie bubble
it’s just going to be a lie bubble that you don’t you’re not bothered by so much as a shaman so you move on it’s not like
you’re destroying the lie bubble you’re really just changing its shape
you’re making it adjust in front of your presence you’re saying my witness is not is worth more than this live bubble this
isn’t going to work if you want me to stay in your witness you’re going to have to change your live bubble and that’s your reality bubble really
what we see what we can accept we do i did that to a goldfish just like your
autistic kids when i was a kid uh i wanted to pet my goldfish and i was trying to pet the goldfish and the jar
fell off the counter i was horrified and i [ __ ] framed my cat
my [ __ ] cat alfie took the fall for me because of that goldfish and my mom didn’t believe me but that
was the only thing that i could see that was happening when i was telling her i couldn’t have the reality that i did
that it was just way too painful for me it burned like a [ __ ] because i didn’t tell her
because i tried to hide the witness from it it caused the inflammation which made it worse so the only way to find me would be to
come to the place where the cat did it and then to start to ask about the cat well what was the psychology of the cat
did the cat the cat want to kill the goldfish and i bet i would have said no no the cat loved the goldfish the cat
and the goldfish were so close you don’t understand it was just an accident between the cat and the goldfish and so
now i am utilizing the medicine of lying and the crutch and the puppeteering of
my cat to confess to something because i’m trying to find the uh
the electricity to fully come back to the reality that i’m not able to face right the reality
that i’m not able to say is true and so i put the cat in my place to live as my surrogate during it
we could call that lying and evil and mischievous and all those things and i feel like [ __ ] for doing that trust me even now it’s embarrassing to even say
that i did that but really what i was doing was trying as best i can to render the reality that
i could and this is all the energy and clay i had and i needed to put the cat in my seat
to tell this story it’s not even dishonest is what i’m trying to say does that make sense
it’s very often i remember one time when i was i don’t know how old i was learning to ride a bicycle and i didn’t i wasn’t
able to do it yet but i was trying and for some reason i went in the house and told my mother i rode my bicycle
and she said oh let me see you so we went back outside and i got on the
bicycle and wrote it wow that was great
right that’s some good medicine right yeah no idea why i did it but i did you
know and i told her that i couldn’t tell you but yeah that could be exactly the way that
you knew that you could ride if you if you put yourself in that situation that’s pretty
cool that’s pretty smart actually no go ahead
i thought a couple uh i guess sort of reactions uh or observations about your stream today
um one is that i since i can remember i’ve always been one of those people that like picks at
scabs kind of thing and i can kind of create wounds almost from nothing and i’ve done it my whole life uh i
probably was self-conscious around other people in like the school setting at some point but i gave up that self-consciousness a
long time ago uh it makes other people around me uncomfortable but i don’t even notice it uh and at some point uh my we
were hanging out with my uncle uh and on my dad’s side uh his brother and he started doing it my mom was like aha
uh it comes from you um so it apparently uh goes through uh the family line
somehow as far as that self-harming thing uh just anyway but it’s just really random but
the other thing i wanted to mention is so uh there was this random clip of an
abortion protester that went around that she was
um the product of an unwanted pregnancy that the mom took it to term because of
religious beliefs of the family gave it up for adoption it gave her up to adoption she went to a wonderful family
and had a great life and was there supporting abortion um and so are supporting yeah supporting
abortion and so because she felt that her mother had been disadvantaged by not being able to
abort her like even though she prospered uh and so
she is clearly feeling because of the belief system she has now she’s basically feeling sort of guilt or shame
or something tied in that um and that means basically that
she was harmed by the mother by having her like by not aborting her by having her
in this situation at this moment in time in this fractal moment she has now been harmed uh by the mother um
it’s just it’s so weird like how that flows right because it won’t be the same
some point in the future i bet i think that’ll be gone but it’s just weird
yeah i had a long conversation about this before dojo actually
and that there it’s why you can’t there’s not a moral vista that’s like here’s the right decision there’s not
that there’s instances of uh self-mutilation which are which are actually very healthy
um even even self-augmentation i noticed there were some comments coming in about
well i had a a boob job james and i i feel horrible for that or no actually she was like i had a boo job and i don’t
feel horrible for that and i’m confused about this and i’m confused about that and i explain well i
had a tumor removed why do i want to feel horrible about that this this isn’t a contest if no one can touch themselves
that no one can can groom themselves that no one’s allowed to
alter themselves even right the principal natural law the law of self-mutilation
and we never talked about this today but suicide and our society is considered breaking
the law i don’t know how we expect to prosecute but it’s considered that’s considered
wrong and of course the kevorkian many of you know that name
oregon doctor i believe who was uh prosecuted for assisted suicide
and you really start to see how how broken society is when we’re prosecuting
uh self-harm
because it’s what we do every single day and it creates this slippery slope
where we might end up with i know this sounds crazy but a world economic [ __ ]
vaccine treaty why because we have to make sure everybody’s safe
so the exact the exact issue i think is at the heart of what’s happening in our world today
is we’ve taken that same insistence that the sovereignty does not belong to us
and that it belongs to this other power and we’re just watching those powers struggle fight over our own carcass as we root
our favorite side on that’s really more more what’s happened collectively at least
but i saw over covid i saw firefighters the most right-wing people you could
imagine screaming at the top of their lungs my body my choice over vaccine mandates
and that’s progress it’s progress when you’re watching both sides start to fight for
even though the hypocrisy is there the hypocrisy is teaching us how hypocritical we can be
so the pro-life and the pro-choice debate i think are or even vitriol they’re good medicine too because
they’re showing they’re allowing us to showcase our hypocrisy in front of each other it’s kind of made me realize that’s
really the whole purpose of why politics is what it is because it’s exercising our ability to
hypocrisize ourselves into this game of tron where we cut each other off with these neon lines that we crash into
because we’re trapped inside of our own logic the answer is to come out of that really right and
just somatically navigate your world from your personal view and that’s going to start with self-mutilation
just like lying is medicine so is mutilation i think more more marriages
how associated we are in these acts how appropriate it was for us at the
time i think it has a lot more to do with that
it’s not really cut and dry it’s what i’m saying there’s instances where you would need to kill your child in order to save it
there’s instances where if you did not kill your child it would grow up to live a horrible life where it might be
imprisoned or sold into slavery
or murdered or abandoned or eaten by wolves
so it’s not it’s not cut and dry everything’s personal everything is
from your center outward this is why i feel bad about morality
all the time go ahead there’s a legal concept of
a wrongful life lawsuit i’m just throwing this out because you’re talking uh it reminded me
you know where um somebody who’s born and could have been aborted and now has
the hardship that that it’s an actual i don’t know if
it’s if it’s around anymore but when i went to law school it was um
where then the um the person who was born can file a
lawsuit against the parents for not aborting them wow
yeah and and and pull the doctors into the lawsuit as well in order to generate
the money somehow to make make it pay off that so and it’s a thing
so it’s ingrained through our law into our um
culture and now it fuels on so many levels all this um
all this debate again it sort of just stirs it up sometimes without much of a name
victimhood’s best wet dream man man yeah yeah throw little
legal logics in there and you know codify a
wrongful life lawsuit you know and the tort laws you know
anyways just thought i’d throw that out i think speaking of that
just when i it makes me think about my own blood brother that’s
only like a year and a half younger than me he seems to be more epigenetically
damaged than me as much as i might complain about you know
feel vitriol about my own upbringing what it did was it pulled me out of that genetic
loop and then i can clearly see and i’m i’m horrified to think like if
my mother would have kept me the life i would have led because i can see
it just looks like a trapped cage to me and so i’m just wondering what
uh what is it about not being with your birth parent like when you’re adopted
that allows you to escape that um you know it also provided the drill for
my adoptive parents wondering like where does this come from you know like
they don’t understand your personality you notice they’re dealing with maybe
you know i’m just throwing this out there i’m not saying i know but just genetically um
something was was different if we’re talking about that and i’ve always been
generally against the idea of abortion just because it kind of goes against my own existence but i’ve always
kind of held that as a as a personal view and haven’t really
i always felt strongly even as a young as a young child that well
you know if i you know i’m just
i’m glad that i i’m glad that i’m here you know i was always happy to be here and on some level maybe
happy’s not the right word but um you know the um
extremes that you see people bouncing around between the two poles if people could just
slow it down a little bit
you know i think it might help them see if that makes any sense
came to mind
thank you bye open witness anyone
somebody asked a question um on the stream which i thought was was so good
it was it was just so finessy and to go beyond those
the polarization of yes no and and get into you know
like who should decide if somebody dies you or the government you know you broke that down really well
but in terms of um somebody raised the question of of
killing another person and then you said no it’s not the government’s right or no it’s not your
right it’s your power and i wondered if you wanted to um you know flush that out a little bit
because i couldn’t quite grasp that so i got this idea when i was studying
about uh the innocence project which i know i keep bringing up but jury nullification
um is part of that and you as the juror are allowed to
to say uh i think he’s not guilty even though he did it and the reason why i think
he’s not guilty is because government sucks and it’s a stupid law
and that you could make someone not guilty just for that and that no one in the world could ever say or tell you
that no one in the court could ever tell you that you have the power to do that in fact the court has the power to lie
to you and tell you that you cannot do that a judge is allowed to tell you now don’t go in there
and say that that the law is stupid and you think that he should be innocent i don’t want any of you to do that because
that’s wrong and you’d be breaking the law and you could get in trouble he’s allowed to say that even though that’s not true
and why is he allowed to say that because the people have the power
to do that not the right to do that
and i think you start to see the difference between those two terms and just how
how [ __ ] up the word right really is because the right really means
the ability for you to do something through the codification of it in law
which is really [ __ ] up because that’s not actually a freedom that’s a permission
you have permission to exercise these rights
your power presupposes the rights that we’ve given you power
comes before rights and the true power would never have to be told to you because that would not be
power would it that would be rights if someone has to explain to you what your power is you do not have that power
you have that right and it’s been given to you by the authority that you invested in the person who told you that
you had that power now and so go ahead
the power will always be hidden it will always be below the surface by design it’s not even a sign of a faulty
society it’s it’s the medicine of lying through the medicine of wipeout ignorance it gives the people that do
not want that power the ability not to claim it and for it not to be insisted on them
as a right right it’s something that they even have to know that they have to power to do
i was just wondering if that’s what um that’s similar to what um people call
natural right you know what you’re born with what you don’t have to even
you just you just know it you just percent with your being that it’s just
unquestionable natural law right
or something akin to that that natural law i think is more of a field it’s more of a collective
summation of religio cicero’s word that’s really what natural law is
is here’s what all of us can basically do when no one’s going to freak the [ __ ] out that’s really what natural law comes
down to meaning so this power i think is even deeper because it’s
purposely hidden and suppressed not necessarily by a nefarious entity that’s trying to enslave you although it could
be but that it’s actually more likely that that power would be hidden and
suppressed and put down for safety because many people are not ready to touch it yet
if you were to give every kid who entered the school a flaming torch
in fourth grade and say here here’s your torch you you need to
take this home and bring it back tomorrow and for the rest of your life you got to walk around this torch that kid’s going to burn the house down it’s
going to burn the school down it’s going to be the worst thing you could possibly have you you you don’t want to give that
to him and you can imagine him turning 16 and then giving him the torch but he’s gonna
[ __ ] that up too what about 18. he’s still gonna [ __ ] it up you realize that even in their 50s you
cannot just give someone that torch you can’t show up and say here’s your torch you need to keep a hold of this
the only way that’s going to work is that some people will grab that torch it’s the true essence of prometheus i
think is this idea so a right is be in my opinion a right is given to you
and a power is something that you seize that you claim ownership for and you’ve acclaimed ownership to
regardless of the religion that was around you regardless of whether or not everyone else was even
cool with it goes back to that shaman journey really because it’s the electricity of going
against the crowd it ends up being the real the red velvet vip rope
that’s that surrounds people and the torches is it’s that polite rope of this is vip
only and you as the person think well i’m not a vip but the person who thinks himself of vip
goes ah this must be my room it’s the same same essence i think
energetically that way none of us are told our power none of us are taught about our power
i can’t believe the jury nullification is so obviously suppressed like that it blows my [ __ ] mind
that we’re allowed to get away with not telling each other this stuff all the time most of our problems would be over
if people really took jury duty seriously and really invoked this jury nullification in one year if people were
doing this to every single trial prisons would starve
the entire legal system would have to change fundamentally overnight because now you have to cater to what
the jury considers valid law and that’s a that’s a whole new justice system there
um when i can say something um we take the power
yesterday my father-in-law was in hospital for two weeks
and he was only holding alive by machines you know at first um surely we
had hoped that he make it but after times go by um yeah yesterday we decided we cut off
the machines you know you know and the doctors tells us to that would kill
him you know if we do that but no we want to found his peace
because we have no hope in that and yeah you’re fully right uh
it’s one thing to ask permission or you take action
there was nothing uh not easy to die decided because we must make it in a group but
at least it was a act of sovereignty and love for him you know
and um yeah she he passed away a few hours later
but in the end we all was released it was more better than
not that we felt guilt or shame or something like that you know
and um yeah you fully write right if one thing
you know and to take action this thing is uh the
other thing it has a other kind of weight for yourself [Music]
yeah but in the end if that was truly yours
otherwise you wait until like a policeman he gave you the direction
now he can go right or left now the streets are empty and [ __ ] like that
and uh yeah he rest in peace now but um
well it was uh i make this thing now twice i must hold the talk for my uh family for
my wife um they have more struggle in that um
but it was uh with reality for me uh um as i’m trained
but but not easy to see the duality of things
of them you know i have my right to do having
do i do the right thing or not and to see the release of them too at the
end that my mother-in-law and my wife also
that they found this the piece with the decision too
they struggled a lot at the day today but as the time go by they found their peace
with that and yeah i want to throw that in because we’ve
totally matched uh what i was going through the last day you know
have the right for something or take action if yeah
well i think you’ve also touched on an example of uh it’s not exactly
uh self-mutilation but the idea of taking
uh turning the life support off if that’s the right word for it is the same kind of thing
where it’s sanctity over survival
that there’s a a difference there and it’s you’re moving from a life as a a quantity
and you’re turning into life as a quantity as a quality from survival to sanctity is the switch
from quantity to quality and that these are the moral decisions that we make if we have the electricity
to do that i would i would just [ __ ] hate it
if i was stuck on a machine because someone was afraid about death and couldn’t help yeah
my father-in-law is that was one of his wishes you know he wrote it down
and i don’t know how it’s in english here when you have a
give the permission to someone else no doctor can intervene it yeah you have the last word
for it but you must have it you know if you don’t have it it’s all by the doctor’s actions and
he don’t want to want it though the first days we have hope that it gets
better he get better but we see the thing goes down you know it’s uh
part of this um principle of mind control thing that we have a shitty
uh fight for death or what we call death you know it’s totally mindful thing
even at is when they come to death they scream oh lord or something [ __ ] like
that it’s um yeah we give him quality of his life not
quantity at all equality to is his death also you know
as he is suffering with the machines it will go maybe months or something
like that and uh yeah we respect his wishes on the first
wish hey moe your your energy is completely different today uh
it’s it’s really powerful to see the shift in you because normally
listening to you it’s almost like hearing a jackhammer because you’re like really like
you repeat yourself three or four times but today you just seem very grounded and present and you always have
interesting things to say but you seem to be more i don’t know if it’s peaceful or
it’s like your soul is breathing and you’re talking in a more listenable present sort of cadence and
maybe that’s because of the experience and just the introspection but it’s it’s beautiful to see that you’ve
you’re connected deeply somewhere i think maybe i don’t sleep to sleep for three
days a kind of thing uh um i’m tired but you’re all totally right
you know i’m present in in this moment at all got a flashback for four years
with my dad and i tried to appreciate this time take
you know today uh i gotta tell my kids that uh
that now both of our grand fathers are gone and um yeah it was another struggle
these days but uh struggle not in a bad way not in a bad
way but thank you for your source really i appreciate
open witness for mo
i do hey mo um i agree with mike um i noticed
pretty soon when you started to speak that you were like speaking slower and it was easier to um
to follow and to witness you so i’m sorry you haven’t had sleep though that
but maybe you could yeah maybe we could not sleep all the time though
no no not at all you know if i want to sleep i would do it i just
make it my clock to this time that i can be on dojo you know that it’s all about
try out priorities and that is more quality than sleep now
so yeah definitely
i want to say mo uh recipes to your father and i think that what’s really important
what you said about the they call it power of eternity or and also do not resuscitate
but for uh someone close to you to have their sovereignty as far as uh how they
leave this room or whatever so
yeah i just want to add i know that i know that a lot of people are supposed to be afraid of dying alone
and i can’t tell you how many times i’ve thought about how i’m afraid that i’m gonna have to die in front of other people that i’m
gonna have to be like hey look i’m sorry to bother you but can you just get the [ __ ] out so i can die i
mean it’s like i remember my dog doing that to me back when i was all needy and full of survival survival
survival my dog’s trying to die and i’m in the room with my dog because i won’t leave my dog’s presence why
because i don’t want him to die and so finally thank god the phone rings
and i go upstairs and my dog’s like okay quick i got like maybe three minutes to die [ __ ] [ __ ] god what a selfish
prick like that’s that’s what i think about now when i think about it
you know my wife want to be by him on his last hours and uh
he he go off the machines he had one moment
where the doctor said can you see your daughter and he uh
say yes and not with his head and make this action to her daughter and
one hour after she won we got a call that he died and uh by my father you know this thing
was eating me i was from inside i was by him for four years
and he was in hospital we got a call we moved there that he go uh
he’s not going to do well and we missed him for minutes
right you know we came and then he was lying but after that i realized
that maybe this was uh a good thing you know not to see this
moment to have the um you know um
memory of him as we speak together we laugh together uh and yeah i totally
get you and i see this this time my wife tell me
he tells me go out i want to be alone and because of that they come home
maybe if you don’t do that if we have not the ability to do that they will
wait to the last minute i got to stay home to watch the kids but you’re totally right he was in his last minutes
and he won’t uh nobody be there yeah i think it must be a powerful thing
this is why i talk about shame a lot because i think one of our last fields is dignity
and that’s tied into shame and typically when we die the very last thing we lose is our dignity i don’t
know if you’ve noticed that or not but it’s true and that when someone is there to
witness you you are not given the opportunity to have a
sacred space when you shed your dignity
that you spent your entire life creating that parthenia between yourself in that dignity field
and at the very last moment because someone else is afraid of death that you are being expected to cater to
them and give them witness while you’re in the middle of trying to take your dignity off so you can die
and it just creeps me out when i really put the full psychological weight of
this thought behind my lack of compassion for those who have died around me in the past
that has given me this different look at it i’m not saying it’s better or healthy i’m just saying it’s it’s just how
how i’ve been uh approaching it in that way it’s uh
that’s why shame is good it’s it’s just the opposite it’s the interior of dignity
of that dignity moat that we have around us and it has to hopefully die but doesn’t
mean everyone has to see it go
somebody was saying something i think yeah and i i think it’s kind of situational uh of
the situation of where they were though maybe they they had a feeling about the the place
they were because i think that if if you have like a at-home death there’s gotta be somebody
so you know like if you’re already stuck inside the system then maybe you say you know just like
let them go do with the rest because it’s probably gonna be more traumatic too than if they were just
you know dying of old age on their bed yeah and i don’t mean to say i know the thing about [ __ ] though too i mean
that’s definitely a real thing like uh that’s happened in both of my near like
near-death experience is uh but yeah i think if uh
if you’re at home someone’s got to clean it up i mean they the way the system works and everything that there’s already going to be people that take
them to the funeral home or to cremate him or whatever is supposed to happen you know
i don’t know i i just feel like it’s there’s got to be a space for you to be there for someone when they die too i’m
not that’s not what i meant by dignity really like i understand the losing the battle stuff
it’s interesting a couple of things i picked up in my work on shamanism and death and one of them is in a book on
the assemblage point and according to a guy in england that wrote this book about it he said he
finally figured out what he believes the tibetan book of the dead what they were doing at death at the
the the shaman or the holy man would want the assemblage point to come out the crown of the head and death that’s why they tried to
maintain consciousness and they helped him to manipulate it whereas otherwise it goes out the uh
navel where it comes in when we’re born or when we first get life and the other the other thing was a guy
that had supposedly met don juan down in mexico when he was like 99 years old who did shamanic stuff and
he said that don juan told him there were two egregious things that the western world was doing one was to corrupt the corn
because that was their holy food to them and the second was morphine at death he
said this was really horrific because morphine is just just takes you away from yourself so
much and so anyway i thought just interesting yeah i feel like you want to be present
for that last leap of consciousness whatever that might mean you know and morphine is definitely not
conducive to that yeah i think it’s probably the most important
moment of your life is how is the posture of your death
it’s like almost like the entire thing was meant for that and the realizations that you’re
watching unfold on the table you would want to be as fully conscious as you possibly can
to drink in that metatonin that’s being secreted at your final moments it’s the
ultimate ayahuasca trip if you wanted to look at it that way it’s the ultimate journey
and we were terrified of that we most of us a lot of us have that
have that fear and we don’t really understand what happens when we call when we call the ambulance this happens
with wildlife by the way gonna sound kind of gruesome but in the spring there’s a lot of bunnies that end
up rescue bunnies that are found or whatever and people innocently call
the wildlife rescue place and say hey i found this bunny what should i do
and many of those rescuers know because of the history of bunnies
and how hard it is for a bunny to stay alive that there’s a good chance that bunny’s gonna die and the rescuer will
tell you yes i will come take care of that bunny but in their mind what they mean by i will come take care of that
bunny is i will come take that bunny so that when it dies i can feed it to this
wolf or this other animal they’re looking at it as yes i will
eviscerate that life form for you and i will find a way to profit off of
me having to come take it and in your mind you think that oh i’m doing the right thing i’m i’m calling
help and i’m not saying that you shouldn’t call i’m saying that what that person sees when they show up is not
necessarily what you expect them to see and i think that a hospital in an ambulance sees this as exactly the same
thing that hospice really is a recycling center
where people are arguing over who gets your bones and that you just enter into a
bureaucratic system where that that procedure becomes easier because less people are arguing and more
importantly you your exit out of the house has been decided and is clean now
in a lot of ways i’m sorry well just to finally say in a lot of ways i think hospice
looks for more creative ways to move that process through
to clear the runway for that process to occur right
go ahead mike sorry well they also apparently have these people that pull organs out of organ
donors that hang around during surgery and will actually
beg the doctors don’t give them this drug that will destroy their kidneys don’t give them and they’re actually
rooting for the person to die and and trying like rooting against you on the operating table
rooting against you while you’re the doctor supposedly trying to save your life and i had a nurse tell me this
she’s just threw one out because they got a girl uh they called her parents and said she wasn’t gonna make
it and got permission to shut off the life support and and my nurse friend said they they thought
there was still a chance maybe they could save her and this this guy just was just so yeah there’s your hospital there’s a
kind of thing going on yeah that is a good reason why not to be an organ donor
absolutely yeah i revoked mine last year
because uh i didn’t want to they were saying you could only get organs if you’re if
you’re vaccinated and i was like okay you can’t have my organs now and it felt good
still feels good
i don’t know how i’m gonna avoid my biggest fear is not death my biggest fear is that how long will i end up in
the predator’s mouth before that death can occur actually probably my bigger fear is
who’s gonna have to watch me die because i’d rather that save someone that kind of peril
and rather just i think we all would though i think that’s more naturals built in
i just disagree i don’t think that’s true i think that you’re giving it to people you don’t trust and then
like you said that you’re you’re you’re offloading any kind of
actions you can take to choose like i don’t know like as like i
said the if especially the person has like a real sense that they’re gonna die they can stop eating you know it’s not
necessarily like what uh this other gentleman was saying about uh going through the the crown or
just through breath you know i don’t know
you’d have to be worried about what happened to them like i’ve had i’ve heard things i don’t know if they were true that supposedly happened to loved
ones in the hospital that you know i wish someone would have been there to stop that
fear of death causes a lot of weird [ __ ] we make a lot of weird systems because
of that and i get it i mean it’s it’s okay not
saying we shouldn’t be afraid of it it’s a powerful beast it’s showing you the current of what it has and what it is
whatever it is which sorry go ahead cameron say that most people in my experience in
my family have out of the fear of death lost their dignity and their agency well
before their time to die
i think in a lot of ways hospice is there to make it uncomfortable for you to stay in your
body but just comfortable enough to where it looks like everyone still wants you to there
it’s sort of like this weird [ __ ] up twisted in between place right
and even being in the bed being surrounded by all the machines that are beeping at you and telling you what to
do the lack of sleep is a kind of torture that makes it uncomfortable for you on purpose so you will do something
mostly get out of the hospital and i’m not even saying that’s wrong i think that if you had a hospital where
everybody’s like hey you want some pizza or hey man you look like you’re having a bad day that you’ll end up with a
hospital that people aren’t getting better because why would they go home why would they leave the hospital if it
was great so i’m just saying i get why it has to be this fine line
but hospice i think really does you’re the last person to know that what that organization really has to be
for it to survive even the hospice care workers you it’s a certain posture that’s required of you to be a hospice
care person it’s very it’s it’s a religious ceremony if you
think about it and it’s important because people need that right now
it’s look at the corona so many uh
it’s just cut throat though it’s just cut through that’s all it is it’s cutthroat business i don’t i don’t think
that we should be compassionating these workers or whatever like i mean i i do it to the
fact that i just think a lot of people are just they’re just controlled their
thoughts are not their own and they go through whatever they’re going through but there are the people that are there
to make money and that’s what they’re doing it’s it’s i don’t know like it i would say that it’s just like
you wouldn’t tell people to just be in an experiment injecting themselves with
stuff that’s this what’s going to happen when they’re there so uh you know it’s it’s what everyone’s
saying you know it’s people are getting taken out before their time
because they’re thinking that they’re making a choice for other people like it’s
going to be easier on them or this or that or whatever there’s always these stories too of like
people having their last moment and then you know it’s gonna end sometime but
i don’t know i i just i can’t advocate for the medical system and i don’t think that there’s really reasons to make
excuses for the people that are doing these jobs like quit your job if your job is a horrible job
all right nobody’s got any topics
it’s just another lie right hospice
a lie of comfort and then it’s up to
it’s like you said about taking power except for the you know sure it’s like it’s a horrible system we
have with a horrible atmosphere hospitals dying that way but
still there’s still power that you can take so we just don’t just like the jury nullification it’s
like how do people know i’ll try right they don’t
um i just nice to have this job where i would deliver
medical equipment to people that had people that were dying at home of cancer mostly
and then usually in small towns like around the
midwest area and then there would come a time where i’d have to come to pick up the equipment
which you know meant somebody died and so
the attempt i think that most of our
death rituals are an attempt to replace dignity that
gets mangled in the process you know people can’t if you were in a
culture that had a set ritual where you thought well this is how this is how i’m going to die
that takes a lot of relief off you and your and your family right
but the way our system’s set up is that everybody has to worry every little
detail and so there’s no we just guarantee that
that there has to be this packaging processing
aspect you know like it just
it’s guaranteed to strip any remaining dignity that could have been [Music]
preserved you know and it just leads you just uh
there has to be a lie or else there can’t be a choice right there can’t be
i guess the choice is the power i mean i guess that’s just a simple
thing but you can’t you can’t have a choice without a lie
like i can’t i’ve had so many ended conversations by being brutally
honest nobody wants that you have to
leave an open [Music] there has to be an open line that somebody can
otherwise there’s no choice there’s not there’s no choice
then there’s no you know that’s i guess that’s if there’s a power
that exists in our life right there it’s uh maybe one of those hidden things
like jury nullification that seems
and that’s that’s why it’s uh it’s so hard to see i don’t
i don’t know how you get around it these days i just
it doesn’t the people’s like what no fistula was saying like if you don’t have it written down
then it’s just anybody’s guess how it’ll turn out
just why do people leave something so important to chance because they don’t want to
talk about it yeah because they’re afraid of death you know we just people would just face it
a little bit more and that energy of like
oh i gotta save you i gotta save you i gotta save you i gotta save you and then you’re just like ruining it the whole
time it really is in nature
anyway i don’t even know what i was trying to say well i think you’re on point and
i would even argue that the reason why the hospice system looks the way it does is because so many people have that same
kind of posture they don’t have the electricity to accept what’s happening so they’re asking for hey can you guys
create a drive-through service that’ll help me die and the answer is yes it’s called
hospice and it’s the default for everyone because most people have a default of being afraid to die and the
ones we will never mess with are the ones that have enough sanctity beforehand to say i don’t want to do this
i want to do this other way or that other way things like that so in a way i think it’s maybe more of a
reflection on our own the way we treat death which this is kind of what i meant earlier talking
about shamanism because you’re not going to get someone to admit that this is what happens but the truth is is that when we call
the ambulance because our loved one is about to die a lot of times we’re calling the ambulance because we
want to make sure it’s not in the house and that’s i know that’s a horrible thought to have but it’s just the
reality of what most people think but they’re not going to say you can’t die in the house i need you to go out of
the house grandpa you’re not going to [ __ ] say that you’d never be able to live with that reality
you need to lie to yourself you need the medicine of lying so what do you do you call not the hospital
but the hospice and you stop and you’re almost there it’s just this
other part of the hospital it’s a separate wing of the hospital but it’s all part of the hospital and it’s all
there to help you and you know it’s not but you need the medicine of lying
to make everyone in the room feel okay about what the decision is so it really
is a decision if you think about it it really is it’s not a good one
it’s not comfortable but it’s just the natural reality of how devastating
fearful people can be about death debbie go ahead
okay just a bit more about the death um we
in our culture we waste it you know we waste the experience of other people passing not necessarily people here but
you know by like you say getting it out of the house and you know you don’t see the person
um until they’re all fixed up in a coffin maybe maybe it’ll be an open casket but
it in many other cultures you know it’s it’s taken to be a very natural and
important part of reality and it’s not treated like that so i don’t even know when hospice
got started when did that come about anyway i mean when i was a kid i don’t remember hospice being around
anyone know what’s that
nope okay well when i was a kid i would say in the i feel like maybe
okay 98 definitely they had it so when i was good they had it if we
believe google which i’m not saying we should blindly believe them but the concept of providing specialized care for death
goes back to england in the 1950s it’s a great question by the way that’s why i wanted to look it up
that’s about when i was born around that time um okay so another thing um
i’ve been going over past dojos and i try to watch the dojo another time now that i’m on
vacation and i have plenty of time to do that um kind of stalking myself
and other people especially since there’s been a lot of talk about
how we present things how we speak in dojo is it boring is it
it’s just very interesting way to stalk yourself like right now i’m feeling mildly nervous on the inside
but i can see from many dojos that i don’t really show that that much i’m pretty calm on the outside it’s just
really interesting to you know go back and see how you were feeling at
the time and what you look like and you know i don’t know i find it fascinating especially because i never
liked to see myself on video the only videos i would ever see myself um
on would be dance videos which was like choreographed costumes it’s all very
prescribed and controlled and i don’t have to talk so this is like a whole nother
experience i i recommend it um check yourself out
i love that because uh it’s one of the reasons why i’ve been doing the dojo worth radio and trying to get other people involved is
because it it gives you access to that i have the same thing i
i really really really hate to see myself on video uh i don’t mind listening to my streams
i i find that uh constructive for me just to like fix my message make it more clear
whatever i don’t mind listening to it but watching myself is very uncomfortable
in fact i shaved and it’s very very very uh
very uncomfortable feeling as soon as we’re done i won’t feel uncomfortable it’ll be
great again but the entire process of being in front of the camera is five times more
irritating now that i don’t have a beard same with the top of my head all those
things and i i but i look at it as is constructive vitriol and that i’m thankful that i feel this
way about myself because it i just try and lean into it and say okay well that’s good to know you know
and it’s it’s it’s hard
yeah man i must every week to kick my ass to do it uh
after my life shows you you see i make little cuts for instagram as well and every time i know i talk for one hour
and half now i gotta see that again and um yeah it’s uh
but it’s a good trade after that i never regret it i think why
i didn’t make it earlier because like you said it’s good ritual
to see your defaults or very good at and so on but every time it’s
i must kick my own ass come do it come do it and so on yeah it’s it’s the worst
thing definitely very constructive exercise
especially if you alchemize it and process it and talk about it otherwise it’s not constructive
but if you can alchemize it it’s very very very thoroughly constructed
yeah i noticed that i my timing in jumping into conversations is often off
and i always not always that sometimes bump into people and then i’m like okay okay that’s you
know and apologetic and you know it’s just um yeah alchemizing this stuff is
great because in each in each little chunk there’s so much um
it’s like the moment is infinite and you can really i don’t know how else to say that but
there’s a lot in each moment and what else was i going to say um
i don’t know i’m curious about something debbie when you mentioned about watching the videos
that are choreographed in the dancing like is that something that you do enjoy like watching yourself in those kind of
performances is that something that you would put on now and then just to watch it again
yeah i’m very critical of what i do and so um there would be some of them that i
would really like to watch like a million times because i think they’re so great and then some that i don’t want to watch
at all yeah in particular when it comes to that but yeah that’s weird because so many
artists i’ve been around like okay so i love reading my old stuff watching my old stuff or listening to my old music
or whatever um and not all because it’s amazing just for a variety of reasons um but i find that most of the artists that
i’ve been involved with don’t do that with their own stuff uh to any degree like i do i mean there’s some
of that critical i’m an artist i’m looking at my stuff in that critical way but like enjoying their art like i see
almost none of my band members would like pop in our music just to like hang out and enjoy the music like it was just
i don’t know it’s very strange i don’t understand that aspect about artists because i’m so the opposite
makes you wonder why they do it you know like for me i
my whole dance style is wrapped around the music i dance to music that i like
and i don’t do steps that i don’t like or that hurt me too much you know i i
just do it how i like it and feel but you know interesting too sometimes
dance videos um i there might be a dissonance between the way i was feeling
and the way it looks on the outside that happens too and that’s always interesting because
your practice kind of ensures that it’s going to be okay it’s going to be pretty good
but it may not be your best and as you’re doing it you know that and you’re that little voice is criticizing you as
you’re doing it which uh takes away from the experience
um yeah there’s a lot to that to that question for sure
i like to practice talking in front of people because it’s so hard for me yeah
i uh when i was in high school or maybe it was junior high it’s really young and i joined a toastmasters club
and it was a bunch of really old people like to me at the time they were old people they were really people my age
really but these are lawyers and people that worked in business and they would meet for toastmasters
which was just a speech club right you just practiced giving a toast you know it’s the idea of to be the master of
giving a good toast so uh it was really i found it to be
beautiful because i was on an equal level with with adults that were
just wanting to learn to communicate better i just found that it’s like one of the first times i felt
like i was seeing what it was like to be an adult is watching other people go through this process too it’s really
beautiful it’s part of why i like the idea of this collin show that uh noam and i are
working on is i want it to be where the roles are interchanged because it
it’s just really good opportunities to be someone who’s on a show versus a host of a show versus a producer of the show
versus someone’s in dojo there’s all these different levels of that kind of exposure and that’s
really where all the alchemy is is if we can find moments that we feel uncomfortable but we can still
constructively alchemize them those moments will become enjoyable as we do that and so we should it’s uh
it’s part of the hermetic uh order i think of initiation it’s
part of why there’s sort of a schism sometimes in the different audiences where some audiences are more into the truth
movement but they want to be constructive and some people are more into the truth movement and they want to be destructive
it’s it’s sort of a different kind of uh avenue for growth i think which is which
is really really important right now if more people were confident with their speech more people would be saying no to
really stupid aside [ __ ] right it’s just natural it would happen that way so
open mic sorry go ahead go ahead
oh um good no you go ahead i forgot what i was gonna say now
i was gonna say it’s it’s the kind of the concept of the comfort movement truth movement schism that you bring up
it’s very it’s very i think present yeah in tonight’s conversation well i i
guess what i was going to say is that i’ve often wondered like how do kids get so
to be such good musicians and it has something to do with something similar to that suzuki method
that people use and people in classical music used to
look so down on it you know like oh that’s you didn’t like learn music theory and do this other
thing you know and they just wouldn’t despite the fact that they can sit and flawlessly like play this this piece
uh you know simply by memory and i think that you know it’s like when you
go in the studio and you listen back and you’re like you make adjustments
uh and it’s uh you know there’s video
so available you can watch yourself how do you think those kids get to be so good it’s not because they’re indigo
children that’s because they it’s because they’re utilizing tools
yeah they’re more common and you can you can you can totally hone in on it that being said there’s certain situations
where when i know i’m just in the moment and i don’t
i don’t want to listen back i just want to have the memory of me being in that moment and i don’t want
to change that by by looking back yes there’s in some ways
that’s also a thing but anyway that’s i guess that’s um what came to mind
about you know looking at yourself and making adjustments it’s like
i can’t say that i generally care for it anymore these days but uh
i certainly do like to to look back at live recordings just to
see how i was in the moment you know like looking back to see how i was in the moment and just go oh that’s cooler
than i thought it was i thought it was really stupid at the time but that’s just one example but anyway
that’s all i have to say well i think you’re right on because just the other day i was thinking about this and i’m
jokingly saying this right now but brandon i don’t think you’re gonna like what i’m getting ready to say i just i
think about you sometimes when i when i have a thought that sounds really uh but let me just let me just say it um in a
moment here but when we as we grow as a human species
first we develop the technology of a mirror and that took a long time like a long time for us to be able to
accurately see our own reflection right sure we had water but that was only in a certain place we couldn’t really move
that around and we learned slowly the perfection of self-reflection
and that that thing got so good we got so good at that that we learned the ability to record ourselves
through language first through written language and then through video and then through audio and now we can record
ourselves and play back ourselves why because our reflection has more clarity we have more clarity over the reflection
of ourselves it’s reflecting in the technology we have but really what it is is we’re able to see ourselves more
the surveillance state the all-seeing eye all of the cameras
are a reflection of us becoming more self-aware that we are witnessing our own selfness
more and it’s unavoidable and that one of the brilliant parts of this giant machine
that’s eating us is that there is full accountability
that every single action and inaction every single ripple in and decoupling
is recorded which means we are able to reflect on it even if it means we reflect on it seven
million years into the future and pretend that technology keeps going
and everything’s more advanced we’d be able to unlock anyone in the past and have a full accountable vision of what
their life was like and who they were because our reflection is so strong it becomes omnipotent we we gain
omnipotence through all of this machine slavery is really the reflecting
surface of this uh gaining in self-consciousness self-awareness so to speak
about sovereignty in the truth movement for lack of a better term that i’ve been running into lately it feels like
there’s a um it feels like there’s this notion that in order to to be sovereign or move in
that direction like society at large has to do it with you um and
it’s like um like i can hear mark pascio talking about how like you know doing the great work requires everyone to then
go out and evangelize the world because if the world isn’t doing it then we’re all enslaved which hey
i just like that doesn’t sound like freedom if i have to go do all these things um that sounds like a job um it
doesn’t but regardless of that it’s just this notion of like i mean i understand that the strictures
of babylon is going to have an effect on one’s ability to express that sovereignty i get that um but i also
think that people just kind of give up doing anything um because it’s easier uh
by saying that everyone has to do it together right you know oh okay so can i answer now i just want
to say that i’m not attacking people’s choices with other people’s their loved ones death and stuff like that
and i you know i’m not really trying to say comfort as a bad word
but but my hope is that the person that is going through the experience of death
can have that sovereignty to tell the people that they trust to then enact that
and i feel like uh you know like the people in this room should know better than to just be like
oh yeah hospice is gonna be the easiest way even if but then if that person is fully
convinced then they have to give them their sovereignty that’s i guess the fine line that’s that’s my position
anyway i don’t know exactly why james preface the last thing said that i was i’m sorry yeah i i because
only in the past just just through like several dojos i don’t know when he means several like a lot i i really mean that
in a joshing way that sometimes in the in the past in dojos i will bring up something that it looks like i’m
defending and glorifying the system that’s oppressing us and you were always the
voice of reason in my head that says james what the [ __ ] did you just say and i just want you to know i constructively
simulate you in my hollow deck as a as the disagreeing force that helps me grow to my understanding i’m sorry that’s
very vague it probably makes no sense but no no i understand you when i understand what you’re saying 100 now yeah that’s fine okay yeah fine good
good i don’t just need to be the biggest sensor or anything i just no and i didn’t mean to paint you that way i realized after i said it that [ __ ] no
wait brandon brandon could easily take this as i’m trying to i don’t mean that i do the same thing to know i do the
same thing to all of you it just it just as i was about to say the the surveillance state is helping the
self-awareness i could just hear that in your body going what the [ __ ] did he just say hey whether or not you meant that or not i just want you to know it
was just a reaction i had so forgive me
we got one minute
i’m sorry i just had a quick final thought on the death thing that was just lingering about
being a lion aristocrats don’t use euphemisms around death
and i remember years ago going to a funeral of an ancestor was more of a hillbilly i think and they had a hillbilly preacher and he mentioned that
we’re going to go look at this carcass in this casket and i thought that sounds kind of coarse
and a friend of mine pointed out no country people and aristocrats don’t euphemize and that’s another part
of the lion posture and that’s what our so anyway that that was just a thought i had that’s an interesting rich man poor
man what you just gave there right you know the both the rich man the poor man will call it a carcass i guess
anyone else got a minute still uh just the other angle with the hospice
thing my parents are going to be the types that don’t want to burden the family with uh having to care for them
or whatever and so i have a feeling all of it is going to be set up and chosen and in place and everything before they
even get close to dying um so it’s going to be this different like i’m going to experience their
preparations uh i think is probably what uh that’s gonna be so that’s just kind of
another angle sometimes you get cut out from the the parent angle themselves like the and that’s kind of cool i actually kind of like the notion of the
the dying person making a lot of those decisions that’s that’s that’s good even if the choices they end up making might
be a little strange by my accounting
all right last words
thank you for coming to dojo uh let’s unmute and say goodbye and uh bye
see you next time
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